Rudder

The thing missing is: LWP::Protocol::https
So, please find out why we don't have that in rudder's perl.

Hi,

I'm hitting this during porting to new OS (Linux, Linaro) /HW (Embedded) combinations, simply by the fact that curl isn't installed.

It would be AIX related if the code were working the same way in both places ;-)
That's what the report is about, not the issue at hand.

I just don't wanna have to fight against the system policies just because they're contradicting themselves. Once the intent is clear I can contribute something to work with that. As long as there's 3 undefined things (why this, why that) I can't get started.

Thanks, I understand better (and was corrected by Alexis on the fact that it actually works on AIX).

It was a decision to not support HTTPS in minicurl (because it should have been here just as a workaround, not as full-blown solution, and most of the pain comes with supporting the "S" part of HTTPS).

So you are right, in NO case we should select minicurl when https is configured.

For the long-view part, we think more and more that minicurl was a bad idea. Most people can't afford HTTP-not-S, and we should not encourage them to do so (whithout knowing even less). Moreover, we are not really sure that the delta between having to maintain a HTTPS version of minicurl (and its dependencies) compared to just having a dependency on curl (even compiling curl if needed) worth the time. So we are certainly removing minicurl in a future version.

In your use case, is it by will that curl is not installed on the embeded devices? Would you be OK with just HTTP-not-S on them?

Thanks for the clarification, this helps a lot.

For my own case, I've asked if they can include curl in the OS and in parallel I was checking how much pain I'll have doing the same things using wget.
If I can make it work I'll send policy patches to support both.
I am not too happy to ask them to add curl when wget is already there, OTOH it is probably not that much work and only like a few KB extra weight.
More a political issue I'd say.

Supporting "curl | wget" could be an option - a better one that maintaining minicurl. Alexis and Benoit would be more insightful here, but the first is giving a course next week and the other is a young father out of office right now...

Yeah I also think this is the way that helps Rudder the most, but a hard curl depedency could get the same result.
If I manage to provide some wget support, I'll make noise.

I would really appreciate if the detection (https/minicurl/aix) could be streamlined though.
Thinking of other cases like FreeBSD where I'm sure I'll also run into it, whenever I start on that again.