Bug #14465: Generation fails with "Task FutureTask rejected from ThreadPoolExecutor" due to timeout in JS computation - Rudder - Issue Tracker

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Bug #14465

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Generation fails with "Task FutureTask rejected from ThreadPoolExecutor" due to timeout in JS computation

Added by François ARMAND over 5 years ago. Updated over 5 years ago.

Status:

Released

Priority:

N/A

Assignee:

François ARMAND

Category:

Web - Config management

Target version:

5.0.12

Pull Request:

https://github.com/Normation/rudder/p...

Severity:

Major - prevents use of part of Rudder | no simple workaround

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Checked

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We saw that exception during policy generation of a rather big :

⇨ Policy update error for process '754' at 2019-03-13 16:35:10
⇨ Exception caught during policy update process: Task java.util.concurrent.FutureTask@4cc89444 rejected from java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@7a2cae84[Terminated, pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 24]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42843427/getting-error-futuretask2c7b84de-rejected-when-using-threadpool
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8183205/what-could-be-the-cause-of-rejectedexecutionexception

Update:
to correct that problem, we need to be able to control the max parallelism in generation globally, and for desesperate cases, we need to also be able to control JS timeout.

These two parameters are quite advanced, and we will only expose them through settings API, but not in the UI.

You can manage them with:

# for max parallelism, either use '1x' to mean "1 time the number of CPU / 2" or '3' to mean '3 threads'
curl -k -H "X-API-Token: xxx"  -X POST 'https://.../rudder/api/latest/settings/rudder_generation_max_parallelism' -d "value=1x" 
# value is in seconds
curl -k -H "X-API-Token: xxx"  -X POST 'https://.../rudder/api/latest/settings/rudder_generation_js_timeout' -d "value=10"

Subtasks 3 (0 open — 3 closed)

Bug #15078: Add an option to fail or not during policy generation if NodeConfigurations cannot be created	Released	Nicolas CHARLES	Actions
Bug #15083: Use human-readable durations in policy generation summary	Released	François ARMAND	Actions
Bug #15085: When a policy generation is triggered but nothing needs to be updated a log erroneously states that all nodes failed	Released	Nicolas CHARLES	Actions

Related issues 4 (1 open — 3 closed)

Related to Rudder - Bug #11594: JVM crash due to thread leak in CachedFindRuleNodeStatusReports	Resolved		Actions
Related to Rudder - Bug #14462: when javascript engine timeout, we shutdown the thread before having a chance to report about it	Rejected		Actions
Related to Rudder - User story #10551: Make policy generation be node by node	New		Actions
Related to Rudder - Bug #14945: Missing index in ldap directory	Resolved	François ARMAND	Actions

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

We had one with the following exception when the webapp is shutdown - perhaps a case when something wasn't stopped correctly:

[2019-02-27 11:25:42] ERROR net.liftweb.actor.ActorLogger - Actor threw an exception
net.liftweb.actor.PingerException: StartUpdate could not be scheduled on com.normation.rudder.batch.AbstractScheduler$StatusManager@7d6c51c
        at net.liftweb.actor.LAPinger$.schedule(LAPinger.scala:75)
        at com.normation.rudder.batch.AbstractScheduler$StatusManager$$anonfun$messageHandler$1.applyOrElse(AbstractScheduler.scala:157)
        at scala.runtime.AbstractPartialFunction.apply(AbstractPartialFunction.scala:34)
        at net.liftweb.actor.LiftActor.execTranslate(LiftActor.scala:504)
        at net.liftweb.actor.LiftActor.execTranslate$(LiftActor.scala:496)
        at com.normation.rudder.batch.AbstractScheduler$StatusManager.execTranslate(AbstractScheduler.scala:105)
        at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.proc2(LiftActor.scala:305)
        at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.$anonfun$processMailbox$1(LiftActor.scala:227)
        at scala.runtime.java8.JFunction0$mcV$sp.apply(JFunction0$mcV$sp.java:12)
        at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.around(LiftActor.scala:241)
        at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.around$(LiftActor.scala:240)
        at com.normation.rudder.batch.AbstractScheduler$StatusManager.around(AbstractScheduler.scala:105)
        at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.processMailbox(LiftActor.scala:227)
        at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.$anonfun$$bang$3(LiftActor.scala:190)
        at net.liftweb.actor.LAScheduler$$anon$2$$anon$3.run(LiftActor.scala:76)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
Caused by: java.util.concurrent.RejectedExecutionException: Task java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask@25591836 rejected from java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor@2b9ee2ed[Shutting down, pool size = 1, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 5, completed tasks = 1117841]
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$AbortPolicy.rejectedExecution(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:2047)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.reject(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:823)
        at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.delayedExecute(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:326)
        at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.schedule(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:549)
        at java.util.concurrent.Executors$DelegatedScheduledExecutorService.schedule(Executors.java:732)
        at net.liftweb.actor.LAPinger$.schedule(LAPinger.scala:73)
        ... 17 common frames omitted

Or similar, without any exception (also during shutdown):

210 2019-02-16 06:35:01.628:INFO:oejs.AbstractConnector:Thread-11: Stopped ServerConnector@140a1b8d{HTTP/1.1,[http/1.1]}{127.0.0.1:8080}
211 2019-02-16 06:35:01.629:INFO:oejs.session:Thread-11: node0 Stopped scavenging
212 2019-02-16 06:35:01.661:INFO:oejshC.rudder:Thread-11: Closing Spring root WebApplicationContext
213 [2019-02-16 06:35:01] ERROR net.liftweb.actor.ActorLogger - Actor threw an exception
214 net.liftweb.actor.PingerException: com.normation.rudder.batch.StartAutomaticReporting$@6540c917 could not be scheduled on com.normation.rudder.batch.AutomaticReportLogger$LAAutomaticReportLogger@15ed    70fe
215 Caused by: java.util.concurrent.RejectedExecutionException: Task java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask@15e3b64d rejected from java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolEx    ecutor@11dc2029[Shutting down, pool size = 1, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 5, completed tasks = 30]
216 2019-02-16 06:35:01.819:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:Thread-11: Stopped o.e.j.w.WebAppContext@2a037324{/rudder,null,UNAVAILABLE}{/rudder.war}

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Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Target version changed from 5.0.9 to 5.0.10

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Updated by Nicolas CHARLES over 5 years ago

Related to Bug #11594: JVM crash due to thread leak in CachedFindRuleNodeStatusReports added

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Related to Bug #14462: when javascript engine timeout, we shutdown the thread before having a chance to report about it added

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Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Target version changed from 5.0.10 to 5.0.11

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Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Target version changed from 5.0.11 to 5.0.12

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Updated by Alexis Mousset over 5 years ago

Severity set to Major - prevents use of part of Rudder | no simple workaround

Happens on 5.0.11.

[2019-05-22 14:42:52] ERROR policy.generation - Policy update error for process '3927' at 2019-05-22 14:42:52: Exception caught during policy update process: Task java.util.concurrent.FutureTask@4e135d5c rejected from java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@4d198178[Terminated, pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 2911]
java.util.concurrent.RejectedExecutionException: Task java.util.concurrent.FutureTask@4e135d5c rejected from java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@4d198178[Terminated, pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 2911]
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$AbortPolicy.rejectedExecution(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:2047)
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.reject(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:823)
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.execute(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1369)
   at java.util.concurrent.AbstractExecutorService.submit(AbstractExecutorService.java:134)
   at java.util.concurrent.Executors$DelegatedExecutorService.submit(Executors.java:681)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngine$SandboxedJsEngine.safeExec(JavascriptEngine.scala:616)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngine$SandboxedJsEngine.singleEval(JavascriptEngine.scala:582)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngine$SandboxedJsEngine.$anonfun$eval$3(JavascriptEngine.scala:562)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.$anonfun$sequence$1(Control.scala:53)
   at scala.collection.mutable.ResizableArray.foreach(ResizableArray.scala:58)
   at scala.collection.mutable.ResizableArray.foreach$(ResizableArray.scala:51)
   at scala.collection.mutable.ArrayBuffer.foreach(ArrayBuffer.scala:47)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.sequence(Control.scala:53)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngine$SandboxedJsEngine.eval(JavascriptEngine.scala:553)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$17(DeploymentService.scala:816)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.$anonfun$bestEffort$1(Control.scala:69)
   at scala.collection.Iterator.foreach(Iterator.scala:937)
   at scala.collection.Iterator.foreach$(Iterator.scala:937)
   at scala.collection.AbstractIterator.foreach(Iterator.scala:1425)
   at scala.collection.IterableLike.foreach(IterableLike.scala:70)
   at scala.collection.IterableLike.foreach$(IterableLike.scala:69)
   at scala.collection.AbstractIterable.foreach(Iterable.scala:54)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.bestEffort(Control.scala:69)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$16(DeploymentService.scala:810)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$15(DeploymentService.scala:808)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.$anonfun$bestEffort$1(Control.scala:69)
   at scala.collection.Iterator.foreach(Iterator.scala:937)
   at scala.collection.Iterator.foreach$(Iterator.scala:937)
   at scala.collection.AbstractIterator.foreach(Iterator.scala:1425)
   at scala.collection.IterableLike.foreach(IterableLike.scala:70)
   at scala.collection.IterableLike.foreach$(IterableLike.scala:69)
   at scala.collection.AbstractIterable.foreach(Iterable.scala:54)
at com.normation.utils.Control$.bestEffort(Control.scala:69)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$14(DeploymentService.scala:805)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$11(DeploymentService.scala:798)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$5(DeploymentService.scala:772)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.$anonfun$bestEffort$1(Control.scala:69)
   at scala.collection.Iterator.foreach(Iterator.scala:937)
   at scala.collection.Iterator.foreach$(Iterator.scala:937)
   at scala.collection.AbstractIterator.foreach(Iterator.scala:1425)
   at scala.collection.IterableLike.foreach(IterableLike.scala:70)
   at scala.collection.IterableLike.foreach$(IterableLike.scala:69)
   at scala.collection.AbstractIterable.foreach(Iterable.scala:54)
   at com.normation.utils.Control$.bestEffort(Control.scala:69)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.$anonfun$buildNodeConfigurations$4(DeploymentService.scala:769)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngineProvider$.$anonfun$withNewEngine$1(JavascriptEngine.scala:345)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngine$SandboxedJsEngine$.$anonfun$sandboxed$1(JavascriptEngine.scala:465)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngine$SandboxedJsEngine$.sandboxed(JavascriptEngine.scala:461)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.JsEngineProvider$.withNewEngine(JavascriptEngine.scala:345)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.BuildNodeConfiguration$.buildNodeConfigurations(DeploymentService.scala:767)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGeneration_buildNodeConfigurations.buildNodeConfigurations(DeploymentService.scala:710)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGeneration_buildNodeConfigurations.buildNodeConfigurations$(DeploymentService.scala:703)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationServiceImpl.buildNodeConfigurations(DeploymentService.scala:474)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$60(DeploymentService.scala:217)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$56(DeploymentService.scala:211)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$51(DeploymentService.scala:205)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$48(DeploymentService.scala:193)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$44(DeploymentService.scala:181)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$42(DeploymentService.scala:180)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$40(DeploymentService.scala:179)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$39(DeploymentService.scala:178)
 at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$37(DeploymentService.scala:177)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$34(DeploymentService.scala:174)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$30(DeploymentService.scala:171)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$26(DeploymentService.scala:168)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$22(DeploymentService.scala:165)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$15(DeploymentService.scala:157)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$11(DeploymentService.scala:154)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$8(DeploymentService.scala:149)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$5(DeploymentService.scala:144)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.$anonfun$deploy$4(DeploymentService.scala:143)
   at net.liftweb.common.Full.flatMap(Box.scala:856)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.deploy(DeploymentService.scala:137)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationService.deploy$(DeploymentService.scala:121)
   at com.normation.rudder.services.policies.PromiseGenerationServiceImpl.deploy(DeploymentService.scala:474)
   at com.normation.rudder.batch.AsyncDeploymentActor$DeployerAgent$$anonfun$messageHandler$1.applyOrElse(AsyncDeploymentActor.scala:376)
   at scala.runtime.AbstractPartialFunction.apply(AbstractPartialFunction.scala:34)
   at net.liftweb.actor.LiftActor.execTranslate(LiftActor.scala:503)
   at net.liftweb.actor.LiftActor.execTranslate$(LiftActor.scala:495)
   at com.normation.rudder.batch.AsyncDeploymentActor$DeployerAgent$.execTranslate(AsyncDeploymentActor.scala:366)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.proc2(LiftActor.scala:304)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.$anonfun$processMailbox$1(LiftActor.scala:226)
   at scala.runtime.java8.JFunction0$mcV$sp.apply(JFunction0$mcV$sp.java:12)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.around(LiftActor.scala:240)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.around$(LiftActor.scala:239)
   at com.normation.rudder.batch.AsyncDeploymentActor$DeployerAgent$.around(AsyncDeploymentActor.scala:366)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.processMailbox(LiftActor.scala:226)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.$anonfun$$bang$3(LiftActor.scala:189)
   at net.liftweb.actor.LAScheduler$$anon$2$$anon$3.run(LiftActor.scala:76)
  at com.normation.rudder.batch.AsyncDeploymentActor$DeployerAgent$.around(AsyncDeploymentActor.scala:366)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.processMailbox(LiftActor.scala:226)
   at net.liftweb.actor.SpecializedLiftActor.$anonfun$$bang$3(LiftActor.scala:189)
   at net.liftweb.actor.LAScheduler$$anon$2$$anon$3.run(LiftActor.scala:76)
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
   at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)

Settings to major as it leads to changes not being deployed when expected.

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Updated by Alexis Mousset over 5 years ago

I saw it again happening just after again:

[2019-05-23 10:40:32] INFO  policy.generation - Flag file '/opt/rudder/etc/policy-update-running' successfully removed

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Problem understood: when there is a timeout, the JS engine catch the error and try to stop the thread pool. We are not checking if there's other task waiting to be executed on that js threadpool.

So when one js processing took more than the 5s, and there is other js waiting for evalutation, then it raises that error in place of raising the nice error "js task timed out for ...".

See: JavascripEngine.scala ~line 625: pool.shutdownNow()

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Related to Bug #15011: Error at the end of a policy generation with too many nodes added

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Related to User story #10551: Make policy generation be node by node added

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Moreover the timeout can happen very easely underload, once Full GC reaches a couple of seconds (even if JS computation is short)

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#13

Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Related to Bug #14945: Missing index in ldap directory added

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Status changed from New to In progress

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Description updated (diff)

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#16

Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Status changed from In progress to Pending technical review
Assignee changed from François ARMAND to Nicolas CHARLES
Pull Request set to https://github.com/Normation/rudder/pull/2260

PR https://github.com/Normation/rudder/pull/2260

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#17

Updated by Rudder Quality Assistant over 5 years ago

Assignee changed from Nicolas CHARLES to François ARMAND

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#18

Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Status changed from Pending technical review to Pending release

Applied in changeset rudder|f4f57a7ab1deebc687f12941ecbb4aeb44cdba73.

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#19

Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Name check set to To do

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Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Fix check set to To do

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#21

Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Fix check changed from To do to Checked

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Updated by Alexis Mousset over 5 years ago

Subject changed from Exception: Task java.util.concurrent.FutureTask rejected from java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor to Generation fails with "Task FutureTask rejected from ThreadPoolExecutor" due to timeout in JS computation
Name check changed from To do to Reviewed

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Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Related to deleted (Bug #15011: Error at the end of a policy generation with too many nodes )

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#24

Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Status changed from Pending release to Released

This bug has been fixed in Rudder 5.0.12 which was released today.

5.0.12 changelog
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Bug #14465

Generation fails with "Task FutureTask rejected from ThreadPoolExecutor" due to timeout in JS computation

Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Updated by Nicolas CHARLES over 5 years ago

Updated by François ARMAND over 5 years ago

Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Updated by Vincent MEMBRÉ over 5 years ago

Updated by Alexis Mousset over 5 years ago

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